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of course he loves fema now. but he didn't love it when they were coming up with a budget plan. >> and to eugene's point, if mitt romney thinks he might get some solace from ryan, there's the paul ryan budget, which also slashes any amount, what is it, $23 million from the budget from fema? i mean, again, their actual plans would eviscerate provisions for the kind of plastic surge emergency that this nation is facing today. >> and very shortly, we're going to be discussing whether or not to raise the debt ceiling again. and debt ceilings get pushed out by these kinds of disasters. you know, the new york subway has to be cleared out. the new york subway is not going to pay for that on its own. they're going to need federal support across this area. that's going to run right up against this debt ceiling. let's see if the republicans remember that their nominee, maybe their president-elect, says fema should be fully federally funded. >> and we look forward too hearing if bain capital will provide the funding. eugene
of course he loves fema now. but he didn't love it when they were coming up with a budget plan. >> and to eugene's point, if mitt romney thinks he might get some solace from ryan, there's the paul ryan budget, which also slashes any amount, what is it, $23 million from the budget from fema? i mean, again, their actual plans would eviscerate provisions for the kind of plastic surge emergency that this nation is facing today. >> and very shortly, we're going to be discussing whether...
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. >> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> well, it's either 11 or 14 times, depending on whose count you believe. the campaign released a statement saying that romney would not abolish fema but, quote, governor romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdiction. that's from his spokesman, ryan williams. is this a problem for him, susan? >> well, i think it becomes an issue for him because of what he said in that primary debate that john king moderated where he was asked specifically about fema. he said anything that the federal government does that can be transferred to the states are better yet to the private sector. that's the right direction. so it leaves open the question of exactly what role he sees for fema. fema has been a controversial agency such as their delivery of services after katrina. however it's pretty popular when it comes in and helps and picks up the co
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. >> you need fema and need support. >> fema is about to run out of money. how do you deal with something like that. >> take something from the federal government and send it back to the states. >> you need fema and you need support. >> and if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. >> mitt romney can't show up on the east coast right now. he has to stay away. >> the president has been all over this. >> listen to your state and local officials. >> he deserves great credit. >> this storm is not yet over. >> the october surprise is here. >>> we begin tonight with the devastation from the massive storm called sandy. the death toll continues to rise. within the hour, it has gone from 43 deaths to 50 as a result of the storm. at least 23 of those deaths are in new york state, 18 here in new york city alone. president obama has declared disasters in 11 states, as well as washington, d.c. since sunday the worst of the damage is in new jersey and new york. the president is scheduled to survey the damage in new jersey tomor
. >> you need fema and need support. >> fema is about to run out of money. how do you deal with something like that. >> take something from the federal government and send it back to the states. >> you need fema and you need support. >> and if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. >> mitt romney can't show up on the east coast right now. he has to stay away. >> the president has been all over this. >>...
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thank you. >> fema -- >> thanks for your help. >> what should fema's role be? governor would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> what do you think about fema? >> governor -- >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> governor romney do you think -- >> so many questions and so few answers. joining us now is msnbc policy analyst, the man with all the solutions, "the washington post" ezra klein. ezra, ezra, ezra, i will say, before we get into this, our very own garret reports that it's been three weeks since mitt romney has taken a question from a reporter. we often talk as you and i want to do about policy and one of the things the republican party has preferred to do in the last two months is talk in an ideological bring all of this in an ideological -- frame all of it in ideology rather than practicality and here on fema, it seems like romney is -- was, we don't know what his current position is, trying to frame the argument based on an overall moral obligation we have to future generations to trim our spending. what do you make over this curren
thank you. >> fema -- >> thanks for your help. >> what should fema's role be? governor would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> what do you think about fema? >> governor -- >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> governor romney do you think -- >> so many questions and so few answers. joining us now is msnbc policy analyst, the man with all the solutions, "the washington post" ezra klein. ezra, ezra, ezra, i will say,...
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the real major point here is, for instance, look at fema again, there are two tasks to fema. one is to respond after disasters. but the other they have neglected since clinton is to mitigate, to reduce the risk in the first place. and fema has been gutted from that task. and now we see the effects. >> this is stats that come from a political science journal article, disaster spending since 1988, the amount of money that the u.s. spent on disaster relief has increased 13 times while the amount of spending on disaster preparedness has been flat. >> or reduced. >> or reduced. what we have is the perverse political incentive, what happens politically if there's a politician and there's a disaster, you're on the news every day doing disaster relief and that's when all the incentives to turn on the spigots and make the money flow, i'm not saying that's a bad thing. we don't have the same incentives to prevent the disaster from happening in the first place because what's the political gain from that? >> you are more cynical than i am. >> we need to place it in context as well, let's
the real major point here is, for instance, look at fema again, there are two tasks to fema. one is to respond after disasters. but the other they have neglected since clinton is to mitigate, to reduce the risk in the first place. and fema has been gutted from that task. and now we see the effects. >> this is stats that come from a political science journal article, disaster spending since 1988, the amount of money that the u.s. spent on disaster relief has increased 13 times while the...
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while i'm talking about romney, steve, he very clearly said that fema -- last year he said fema could be privatized or handled by the states. today he wouldn't even answer questions about it. "the new york times" editorial board slammed romney for his position on fema today writing disaster coordination is one of the most vital functions of big government, which is why mitt romney wants to eliminate it. does mr. romney really believe financially strapped states would do a better job than a properly functioning federal agency? those in hurricane sandy's path are fortunate that for now, that ideology has not replaced sound policy. as people look at this disaster, and are reminded about romney's position as they see at least so far fema operating efficiently, the politics of that clearly cannot be good for mr. romney, as "the times" suggest. >> yeah, no, i agree except i would put a cautionary note in there in that there are a number of issues that have come up in this campaign where romney's position, he articulated in republican primaries, the republican party platform is totally at od
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fema f yougate said people can' necessarily make contact with fema and to deal with temporary housing but that's the other thing apparently he's among the messages fema going to bring is that they're ready for that next step of trying to find people temporary housing if they need it. >> quickly here, this juggling act the president is performing right now, necessary one. we see and hear today in new jersey focus on the people and goes back to the campaign trail tomorrow. >> big blitz tomorrow and mitt romney hit the trail today but tomorrow he starts what appears to be hit just about every battleground state in a 72-hour period. today, last day of storm recovery and tomorrow is the now i guess we're at a -- spring until the end but everybody fully on the campaign trail starting tomorrow. >> chuck, thank you very much. let's bring in ron allen in new jersey. ron, we have pointed out that a lot of frustration right now, you have chuck schumer saying specialists are brought in to manhattan, for example, to deal with the pumping issue. but also, congressman israel from new jersey concerne
fema f yougate said people can' necessarily make contact with fema and to deal with temporary housing but that's the other thing apparently he's among the messages fema going to bring is that they're ready for that next step of trying to find people temporary housing if they need it. >> quickly here, this juggling act the president is performing right now, necessary one. we see and hear today in new jersey focus on the people and goes back to the campaign trail tomorrow. >> big...
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that romney is not interested in getting rid of fema. do you buy it? >> no, not necessarily. i mean, again, the problem with romney is we don't know which position from which time is actually his position. there have certainly been cuts in the republican congress to relief efforts. and i think this story really does remind us that the federal government has a role to play. the federal government can play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is for years, particularly under clinton, who really did a good job of reforming fema, we said, yeah, this is one of the things the federal government does well. and when states get into trouble like this, yes, they can do things for themselves, and they do a lot of stuff for themselves. but they've got to have the fed. so i think right now, he has no choice but to say, well, whatever i said before, i'm going to keep fema. >> e.j. dionne, are we going to be looking back on this campaign if romney losing saying it was the 47% tsunami, that it really was that t
that romney is not interested in getting rid of fema. do you buy it? >> no, not necessarily. i mean, again, the problem with romney is we don't know which position from which time is actually his position. there have certainly been cuts in the republican congress to relief efforts. and i think this story really does remind us that the federal government has a role to play. the federal government can play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is...
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and fema. he wanted to operate it working better. >> he discussed privatizing as well. let me give the audience an important update on the numbers right now. 20,000 people in sux ses county, delaware are affected by the hurricane. we're talking about lives. 25,000 people in sussex county, delaware under a mandatory evacuation order for that county and the southernmost counties in delaware. these are live pictures right now out of delaware as well. chip, i greatly appreciate your time. dominico, what should we look for tomorrow, since these campaign trail events have been nixed at least for now? >> with the storm's impact likely to hit tomorrow the hardest, i think both campaigns will watch the weather reports as closely as we're watching the news and just seeing just how widespread this does become and just how devastating it could be. whether or not the two campaigns decide to go nid to help or hang back and just see, watch and wait and see what happens. >> thank you very much. i greatly appre
and fema. he wanted to operate it working better. >> he discussed privatizing as well. let me give the audience an important update on the numbers right now. 20,000 people in sux ses county, delaware are affected by the hurricane. we're talking about lives. 25,000 people in sussex county, delaware under a mandatory evacuation order for that county and the southernmost counties in delaware. these are live pictures right now out of delaware as well. chip, i greatly appreciate your time....
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the translation is oh, you like fema? i like fema, too. oh, you don't like fema? no, fema's terrible. that's the translation. >> richard, he seems to be talking about getting money directly to first responders. that would be a sudden interest on mitt romney's part in getting federal money for firefighters and for local police officers, the kind of thing that president obama has done. >> he's describing the status quo. but he's also lost his moral -- deep, deep moral concerns about the nature of debt. because that extra funding that these natural disasters cost, we have to go borrow that money. let's face it. and before, when he was running for the nomination, that was a deep, deep concern to him as a question of values because debt as a question of values is more important than helping people in need. by the way, it only took him 48 hours to come up with a statement. you would hope that as president he could respond to a disaster a little quicker than that. >> and actually, i found myself in the middle of it getting lost as i was reading it. it was not exactly the
the translation is oh, you like fema? i like fema, too. oh, you don't like fema? no, fema's terrible. that's the translation. >> richard, he seems to be talking about getting money directly to first responders. that would be a sudden interest on mitt romney's part in getting federal money for firefighters and for local police officers, the kind of thing that president obama has done. >> he's describing the status quo. but he's also lost his moral -- deep, deep moral concerns about...
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the romney statement on fema. of course the house republicans who forced a 43% reduction in primary fema grants. >> we still have day or two we're talking about cleanup and relief effort, but after that, you can be sure that we will have this discussion about the role of fema and government. mitt romney is running to be chief executive of the federal government. the role of government he has put that as one of the central pieces of his premise to be elected and unseat president obama and, you know, this isn't just a sort of esew terric argument about philosophy here. there are real life impacts to it and we have seen the romney campaign promising big change, trying to reconfigure that position on the auto bailout. there is the same thread that runs between these two things. what happens when everything fails? what happens when the markets bottom out, there is no other source of funding out there, except for the federal government and the federal reserve. there is no other relief that you can find for the state oth
the romney statement on fema. of course the house republicans who forced a 43% reduction in primary fema grants. >> we still have day or two we're talking about cleanup and relief effort, but after that, you can be sure that we will have this discussion about the role of fema and government. mitt romney is running to be chief executive of the federal government. the role of government he has put that as one of the central pieces of his premise to be elected and unseat president obama and,...
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sequestration will cut fema another 8%. remember, the republicans kind of led the charge with sequestrati sequestration. there are so many challenges for us to consider. we talk about october surprises. it's really unique to have a national natural disaster as an october surprise because i think it should open people's mites up to what the folk on the right have been talking about about gutting government and privatizing everything. you can't privatize disaster relief. we know about all the scams. you need the government to coordinate across the states. you can sakic it back to the states but we need coordination across the states for this kind of relief effort and also, martin, finally here, in the absence of any kind of government intervention with respect to climate change, to go on the other end of that and then to also say we want to cut and demolish fema is absolutely absurd. we need both. we need to address climate change and we need to sort of make sure that fema is also a resource because if you're looking at tsuna
sequestration will cut fema another 8%. remember, the republicans kind of led the charge with sequestrati sequestration. there are so many challenges for us to consider. we talk about october surprises. it's really unique to have a national natural disaster as an october surprise because i think it should open people's mites up to what the folk on the right have been talking about about gutting government and privatizing everything. you can't privatize disaster relief. we know about all the...
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saying very good things about fema. how important is that agency? i bring that up in a partisan sense that in the recent debate of june of this year, governor romney -- former governor romney bashed it saying we don't need it. the states can handle these emergencies. >> these are the occasions when people say why it is that they pay taxes and why they have a government. fema was so broken and so dysfunctional back in the days of heck of a job brownie and the miserable way that we failed to protect and respond and help our citizens in new orleans to recover and under president obama, actually in a much improved fema and honestly, you know what, the republican senators say the same thing and i'm glad that they are saying it in the face of this storm. the truth is that the public safety, emergency preparedness should be nonpartisan and there are certain things that we have to be able to find a way to afford to do and protecting the public in the face of big emergencies is one of them. so it's been really inspiring to see the way that men and women have
saying very good things about fema. how important is that agency? i bring that up in a partisan sense that in the recent debate of june of this year, governor romney -- former governor romney bashed it saying we don't need it. the states can handle these emergencies. >> these are the occasions when people say why it is that they pay taxes and why they have a government. fema was so broken and so dysfunctional back in the days of heck of a job brownie and the miserable way that we failed...
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we're coordinating with fema, thank you mr. few gate for being here and the input he's had to make our operation better. >> we will examine fema's heck of a job next on "now." [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ]...
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fema was here. they were all working with the local authorities and were able to do it pretty smoothly. they've stopped search and rescue efforts for tonight and say they've gotten all of the elderly and handicapped people out of the area. they will do it if there are emergency situations. they're not entirely sure how many are left in the houses. we did speak with some who said they were going to stay regardless, they didn't feel like it was much of a threat. the high tide, though comes in at midnight tonight and they are concerned about getting another four feet of water. right now it's receding a lot since we've been here for the past few hours the entire day mostly. we can show you what it looks like here and this is certainly what it looks like. you can hear the sounds of the activity here and the generators and sirens every once in a while but wove a hard time conveying is what it smells like. there's a lot of gasoline, a lot of sewage. you don't want to imagine, rachel. what's in all this wat
fema was here. they were all working with the local authorities and were able to do it pretty smoothly. they've stopped search and rescue efforts for tonight and say they've gotten all of the elderly and handicapped people out of the area. they will do it if there are emergency situations. they're not entirely sure how many are left in the houses. we did speak with some who said they were going to stay regardless, they didn't feel like it was much of a threat. the high tide, though comes in at...
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that means fema's coffers are full. there's $7 billion congress appropriated for disaster fund, plus another billion left over from 2012. that should last fema through the end of the year, but with sandy expected to cost upwards of $60 billion, the odds are that congress is going to have to allocate more this winter. plus, if washington doesn't strike a deal to avoid the sequester cuts january 1st, that fiscal cliff thing, fema will take a $900 million hit. so what does all this mean? nbc's mike viqueira is back at the white house. any word from the white house on this? >> reporter: well, i mean, the short answer to your question, steve, is we don't know. and this may not surprise anybody, but it depends on who the occupant of this building is going to be come january 21st. i mean, there are a couple competing different plans out there. remember, the fiscal year, as you pointed out, always started october the 1st. congress, before leaving town very early to get on the campaign trail, extended one of these continuing res
that means fema's coffers are full. there's $7 billion congress appropriated for disaster fund, plus another billion left over from 2012. that should last fema through the end of the year, but with sandy expected to cost upwards of $60 billion, the odds are that congress is going to have to allocate more this winter. plus, if washington doesn't strike a deal to avoid the sequester cuts january 1st, that fiscal cliff thing, fema will take a $900 million hit. so what does all this mean? nbc's...
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this includes help from the federal government and fema. suddenly mr. romney loves fema. doesn't sound like he wants to privatize it today. >> well, of course he's trying to walk that back because this is not the kind of remark that goes over well with voters in the middle that he's trying to lure now. this sounded good for the severely conservative mitt romney to say. but the new moderate mitt doesn't want to be caught -- we have perhaps an unprecedented natural disaster hitting the east coast of the united states. >> right. >> the new moderate mitt doesn't want to be seen saying, oh, the federal government -- why not privatize it? let people pay to be rescued. you know, what is the immoral here, reverend al? the united states is the richest country in the history of the world. bar none. what would be immoral would be for the federal government not to do whatever was necessary, you know, move the 82nd airborne if you have to, to rescue people. make sure they have food and water and make sure as many people as need to be moved to safety are moved to safety. >> richard, ry
this includes help from the federal government and fema. suddenly mr. romney loves fema. doesn't sound like he wants to privatize it today. >> well, of course he's trying to walk that back because this is not the kind of remark that goes over well with voters in the middle that he's trying to lure now. this sounded good for the severely conservative mitt romney to say. but the new moderate mitt doesn't want to be caught -- we have perhaps an unprecedented natural disaster hitting the east...
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the president -- >> but not before coming out against fema. now, this is where i talk about the strange things. it's not just the weather. it's the conjunction of weather and politics. now, not long ago in june we're going to look at a picture now, this is when the republican candidate for president, mitt romney, went on the usual ideological facet people take saying let's get rid of this and let the states handle it. nobody is saying that tonight. >> fema is about to rub out of money. some people say maybe we're learning a lesson that the states should take on more of this role. >> absolutely. every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. and if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. we're borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we're taking in. >> including disaster relief. >> we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for tour kids. it is simply immoral in my view to rack up la
the president -- >> but not before coming out against fema. now, this is where i talk about the strange things. it's not just the weather. it's the conjunction of weather and politics. now, not long ago in june we're going to look at a picture now, this is when the republican candidate for president, mitt romney, went on the usual ideological facet people take saying let's get rid of this and let the states handle it. nobody is saying that tonight. >> fema is about to rub out of...
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questions about fema dogged the candidate. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> let's turn to sam sign and also joan walsh. joan, let's go to you first. this is where the bs meets the reality when it comes to mitt romney and what he really wants to do with fema. this puts the candidate in a tight spot, doesn't it? >> well, yes, of course, it does, ed. this moment really reminds me of that moment in 2008 when john mccain had his crazy reaction to the economic crash and wanted to suspend his campaign and go back to washington and looked like he doesn't understand what was at stake. mitt romney looked ridiculous at that rally today. he was talking about cleaning up a football field of rubbiage. and i think it's civilly when you can't play politics. right now, we're having a debate over the future of our society. and things like this disaster relief are really quite pertinent. so it's not that he can't campaign, but go out there and take questions about what you want to do with fema. go out and there and defend your me first, dif involve to the states attitude. bu
questions about fema dogged the candidate. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> let's turn to sam sign and also joan walsh. joan, let's go to you first. this is where the bs meets the reality when it comes to mitt romney and what he really wants to do with fema. this puts the candidate in a tight spot, doesn't it? >> well, yes, of course, it does, ed. this moment really reminds me of that moment in 2008 when john mccain had his crazy reaction to the economic crash...
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again, questions of fema dogged the candidate. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> are you guys ready for the light stuff? >> let's turn to sam stein, political reporter for "the huffington post and joan walsh, the author of "what's wrong with white people." what mitt romney wants to do with fema. this puts the candidate in a pretty tight spot, doesn't it? >> well, yes, of course it does, ed. i mean this moment really reminds me of that moment in 2008 when john mccain had his crazy reaction to the economic crash and wanted to suspend his campaign and go back to washington and really looked like he didn't understand what was at stake or what was going on. mitt romney looked ridiculous at that rally today. i mean he was talking about cleaning up -- one time he had to clean up a football field of rubbish and comparing that to disaster relief and i'm not somebody -- i think it's kind of silly when we say we can't play politics at this moment. there's always politics and right now we're having an election. we're having a debate over the future of our society and thing
again, questions of fema dogged the candidate. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> are you guys ready for the light stuff? >> let's turn to sam stein, political reporter for "the huffington post and joan walsh, the author of "what's wrong with white people." what mitt romney wants to do with fema. this puts the candidate in a pretty tight spot, doesn't it? >> well, yes, of course it does, ed. i mean this moment really reminds me of that moment...
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. >> thank you fema fema is about to run out with money. >> 88 hours in ohio. >> president obama on the ground in ohio vernlg the center of the political universe right now. >> right here in ohio. >> you know that i'll fight for you and your families. >> it is all about ohio. >> do you want more of the same or do you want real change? >> and governor romney will be in aetna, ohio. >> this is about eric mac. >> the salesman versus the storm. >> we're going to win on tuesday night. >> all the battlegrounds look winnable for the president. >> we're really down to the last seven states. >> it is still all about the economy. >> we've made real progress. >> you've got this jobs report, the unemployment report. >> definitely a strong jobs report. >> stronger than expected. >> that's good. >> unemployment is higher today than when barack obama took office. >> he is about as hollow as the tin man. >> if we don't run candy crowley, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >>> we begin tonight with the latest on the recovery from the devastation of hurricane sandy. nbc news has now confirmed 94
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so when we talk about fema, look at the history of fema. let's be honest. under ronald reagan, there was a rather more valued position of fema. it declined under george h.w. bush. it was restored and then upgraded to a cabinet level position under bill clinton, and then reorganized under homeland security to an ancillary position within the broader framework there. so the problem is when you have competing forms of disaster for our attention, one which is natural, another one which is so-called manmade, you have a kind of moral triage going on in the government and that's problematic. the democrats have got it right. you put fema on its own bottom, allow it to address federal emergencies, and then you deliver resources to states and to local governments from the central organization of the government. yes, you're right. i think julian epstein is absolutely right. the democrats have been inclined to help those who are in need, and this is a challenge to us and a choice for americans here. what kind of government do you want? one that stands behind you when y
so when we talk about fema, look at the history of fema. let's be honest. under ronald reagan, there was a rather more valued position of fema. it declined under george h.w. bush. it was restored and then upgraded to a cabinet level position under bill clinton, and then reorganized under homeland security to an ancillary position within the broader framework there. so the problem is when you have competing forms of disaster for our attention, one which is natural, another one which is so-called...
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they seem to be grateful for the help of fema and the president. wouldn't president romney want to do away with fema and ship those resources back to the states? do we know for sure? >> yea. absolutely. he's not opposed to that by any means. i think what the governor is talking about and we've seen cases in the past is trying to make sure that fema is the most effective agency possible in terms of affecting states and localities with disasters and it's always been a major concern in the sense that the way that it is budgeted for is not one in which it is reliable or one that states can depend on, so looking at how we fund fema and how those activities are streamlined to help states and again, you look back several storms and there's a lot of criticism to fema, so getting to an agency, allowing an agency to operate more effectively and ensuring states and localities are receiving the funds they need to help the people is what this comes down to. >> thanks for taking time for us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thanks, tom. >> we are just learning
they seem to be grateful for the help of fema and the president. wouldn't president romney want to do away with fema and ship those resources back to the states? do we know for sure? >> yea. absolutely. he's not opposed to that by any means. i think what the governor is talking about and we've seen cases in the past is trying to make sure that fema is the most effective agency possible in terms of affecting states and localities with disasters and it's always been a major concern in the...
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which begs the question, jon, where the. [ beep ] is fema when you need them? >> it is it tough uptown. stephen colbert wondering if sandy has a political agenda. >> none of this surprises me. hurricanes have a well known liberal bias. first katrina tainted george bush's presidency. then isaac wiped out the first day of the republican national convention. now hurricane sandy. sandy, what kind of name is that? are you induced or a lady storm? big surprise, just when obama needs a boost, who shows up in a gender ambiguous weather system? a category 5 bi-hurricane. don't get me wrong, i don't mind you being a meteorological event but why must be so flam poiboya and in my face about it? no, i'm hurricane sandy. deal with me. >> all right. did you see this video yesterday? a 4-year-old girl in ft. collins, colorado, if you think you're sick of the presidential election, look to her reaction after a ride to her grocery store with her mom during which she listened to an mpr report about the campaign. >> because i'm tired of both obama and mitt romney. >> that's why yo
which begs the question, jon, where the. [ beep ] is fema when you need them? >> it is it tough uptown. stephen colbert wondering if sandy has a political agenda. >> none of this surprises me. hurricanes have a well known liberal bias. first katrina tainted george bush's presidency. then isaac wiped out the first day of the republican national convention. now hurricane sandy. sandy, what kind of name is that? are you induced or a lady storm? big surprise, just when obama needs a...
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he admonished his aids at fema who said everything is under control. fugate said don't get smug, don't get overconfident. we don't know what is going to happen. obviously an incredible amount of federal and state resources geared toward what's going to happen on the east coast. >> a lot of moving parts. thanks. it's not too often we hear the words philadelphia and hurricane mixed in the same sentence. hurricane irene moved, big, powerful storms cause just as much destruction inland as they dump huge amounts of water and cause wind damage. the current storm track for hurricane sandy churning in the atlantic has it expecting to make a sharp left turn through the commonwealth of p.a. after it comes ashore tomorrow. this storm could be headed to philadelphia. michael nutter is the mayor of philadelphia. sir, i know that philadelphia has already gone under through your declaration a state of emergency. what does that mean for philly residents. >> the opportunity to talk about philadelphia. let me go back and say, it was a tremendous call that the president
he admonished his aids at fema who said everything is under control. fugate said don't get smug, don't get overconfident. we don't know what is going to happen. obviously an incredible amount of federal and state resources geared toward what's going to happen on the east coast. >> a lot of moving parts. thanks. it's not too often we hear the words philadelphia and hurricane mixed in the same sentence. hurricane irene moved, big, powerful storms cause just as much destruction inland as...
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and fema is saving lives. not only are they saving lives in this recovery with food and water and batteries and blankets, but the recovery. they have loans to help people get back on their feet, these small businesses that have lost all their produce, all their inventory, all their food. they don't even have the money to restock. it will guarantee a bridge loan with the bank. >> i'm delighted you mentioned the great eric cantor because he was out campaigning, as you said. let's listen to what he said. >> this country is in desperate need of a leader who understands, first of all, that reasonable people can disagree. that's what this country is built upon is a spirit of cooperation, of understanding. >> mr. cantor has spent the last four years opposing absolutely everything that this president has tried to do to stir the recovery. you know this man. what is he talking about? he talks about cooperation, a spirit of understanding. have you ever seen eric cantor deliver that over the last four years? >> we have no
and fema is saving lives. not only are they saving lives in this recovery with food and water and batteries and blankets, but the recovery. they have loans to help people get back on their feet, these small businesses that have lost all their produce, all their inventory, all their food. they don't even have the money to restock. it will guarantee a bridge loan with the bank. >> i'm delighted you mentioned the great eric cantor because he was out campaigning, as you said. let's listen to...
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this includes help from the federal government and fema. a romney campaign official also says, quote, of course he doesn't want to abolish fema. one week before election day and 800-mile wide hurricane is bearing down on 60 million people across a dozens states. the damage may be upwards of $18 billion and could produce life-threatening conditions. it's taken the lives of 65 people as it powered through the caribbean. the october surprise is here in a time of crisis voters must determine whether they want governor romney at the helm and if he there is what kind of relief will be on offer. the paradox of the mittens, obfuscation and adjusted policy continues. lawrence? >> excuse me. i'm doing a note to self about use that romney video tonight. >> please do, my friend. >> if the power is still on in this building and we're still doing -- >> please do. if that old video archive is still up an running. >> that's good. what you call on point. >> yes. >> for this particular news cycle. >> it is. john king interrupts him and says even for disaster
this includes help from the federal government and fema. a romney campaign official also says, quote, of course he doesn't want to abolish fema. one week before election day and 800-mile wide hurricane is bearing down on 60 million people across a dozens states. the damage may be upwards of $18 billion and could produce life-threatening conditions. it's taken the lives of 65 people as it powered through the caribbean. the october surprise is here in a time of crisis voters must determine...
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they can't just go totally dark. >> and he has a sudden affection for fema? you will recall during the republican presidential campaign which is an entirely different campaign from the one we're in now. he had a different view of fema and we have the video and we're going to show you that right now. >> fema is about to run out of money and some people that say do it on a case-by-case basis and some say, maybe we're learning a lesson that the state should take this on. how do you feel like that? >> absolutely. every time you have an occasion to take something back from the federal government and send it to the states that's the right direction. and if you go further and send it back to the private sector that's even better. we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. it is simply immoral in my view, for us to continue to rack larger and larger debts and pass them to our kids and knowing full well, we'll be all be dead and gone before it's paid off. >> so jeanne king is saying, including disaster relief. and that's when mit
they can't just go totally dark. >> and he has a sudden affection for fema? you will recall during the republican presidential campaign which is an entirely different campaign from the one we're in now. he had a different view of fema and we have the video and we're going to show you that right now. >> fema is about to run out of money and some people that say do it on a case-by-case basis and some say, maybe we're learning a lesson that the state should take this on. how do you...
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when he was asked about fema, mr. romney said absolutely every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the state, that's the right direction. you can go further and send it back to the private sector. that's better. he talks about taking fema and divesting it into the states. yet, this week, i think that statement is many could go back to haunt him. is this more than anything a teachable moment for mitt romney? >> storms bring the best and the worst out in america. they both seem to show up during a natural disaster. a natural disaster is one that crosses a couple of states. i lived through hurricane hugo in 1989 and watched the politics of a hurricane. we were out of power. my business was down. for politicians, they have to be very careful. it can make or break a political career. this is where the american public expect the government to step up, not just for a couple of days or a couple of sound bites. right now, it is going to be the sound bites that will get us
when he was asked about fema, mr. romney said absolutely every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the state, that's the right direction. you can go further and send it back to the private sector. that's better. he talks about taking fema and divesting it into the states. yet, this week, i think that statement is many could go back to haunt him. is this more than anything a teachable moment for mitt romney? >> storms bring the best...
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when people think about the federal government and fema and the bureaucracy i think it's daunting. people are worried it's going to be red tape and programs that are not going to essentially solve their needs in the short term. you know, the short-term needs people have here is basically to get the debris away from their homes to secure structures to make it safer. there are still thousands of people in shelters who are going to be running out of food and supplies and those kinds of places up and down the coast and further inland. power, of course, is out to 60% of the entire state. so before -- once you get those things re-established, then you can begin to start rebuilding and really getting your foot -- your feet back on the ground here. it's going to take a while. i think people are encouraged that the president is coming. it certainly shows that he's concerned about what's happened here. but as always, i think there are going to be a lot of doubts and frustrations in terms of what exactly is going to happen here soon because it's going to take a while. obviously it's going to
when people think about the federal government and fema and the bureaucracy i think it's daunting. people are worried it's going to be red tape and programs that are not going to essentially solve their needs in the short term. you know, the short-term needs people have here is basically to get the debris away from their homes to secure structures to make it safer. there are still thousands of people in shelters who are going to be running out of food and supplies and those kinds of places up...
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i agree with you. >> fema, we need you. >> yeah. >> because he employed fema. >> used fema, worked well with fema. >> fema, dot, dot, dot, you betcha. >> anything we've learned over the past eight to ten years, we need to boost it, strengthen it. >> isn't that another case of primary speak there, though? >> yes, that's exactly what it is which is, you know, this is mitt romney, one of his problems, there's a sense that does he say what the room wants to hear? >> yeah. >> right, and that felt like a case where he was trying to look like, look, i'm not -- you may not believe i'm a conservative, remember the moment in the campaign we were at at that time. by golly, you're going to believe i am a fiscal conservative like nobody's business, nobody's going to be able to outflank me on that. and that is one of those cases you said it that way. i just can't imagine any president that would somehow start cutting back on fema. when fema is a lifeline. i heard christie this morning, you're going to hear him again. i don't think he's going to be for cutting out of fema, and i don't know if chris ch
i agree with you. >> fema, we need you. >> yeah. >> because he employed fema. >> used fema, worked well with fema. >> fema, dot, dot, dot, you betcha. >> anything we've learned over the past eight to ten years, we need to boost it, strengthen it. >> isn't that another case of primary speak there, though? >> yes, that's exactly what it is which is, you know, this is mitt romney, one of his problems, there's a sense that does he say what the room...
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joining me now is fema director craig few gai craig fugate. put into perspective the enormity of the preparations are we have a hurricane, a blizzard, an inland flood threat and a gale into one storm. covering all of the northeastern united states, a lot of preparation, a lot of areas, and particularly today, starting to see more risk from storam surge developing and evacuation required in certain coastal community. >> with regard to fema, where are you positioned with the enormity of the geography of this? >> we started back friday, realizing that this was going to be a potential impact, began moving teams, maybe those teams have arrived. they are staged throughout the region. like everyone else, not exactly sure where the hardest hit areas may be. from the carolinas up to maine and inland, we have teams, equipment, staging, ready to support governors, depending upon the impacts of the storm. >> people always talk about being for days without power. what's the setup you have to be prepared for that? >> that's what we're anticipating. i think
joining me now is fema director craig few gai craig fugate. put into perspective the enormity of the preparations are we have a hurricane, a blizzard, an inland flood threat and a gale into one storm. covering all of the northeastern united states, a lot of preparation, a lot of areas, and particularly today, starting to see more risk from storam surge developing and evacuation required in certain coastal community. >> with regard to fema, where are you positioned with the enormity of the...
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fema officials arrived there today with food and supplied. governor christie's office announced today that new jersey transit will restart with service tomorrow. officials are working to expand the limited service of the subways. amtrack will begin to run partial service of the city tomorrow. growing problem will be lines at stations stretching for more than a mile. in the city of yonkers officials are limits customers to no more than ten gallons. in south manhattan people went through dumpsters today to look for unspoiled food thrown out by a super market. officials warning that the east coast could be hit by another storm this time next week. the devastation on staten island the new york borough that was the hardest hit. we get the latest from nbc news correspondent. anne? >> good evening. three days after the hurricane. people in this community are accusing government agencies here than with the wealthier parts of the city. every person on this block lost everything. >> staten island has had enough. >> we want everyone to know that we are
fema officials arrived there today with food and supplied. governor christie's office announced today that new jersey transit will restart with service tomorrow. officials are working to expand the limited service of the subways. amtrack will begin to run partial service of the city tomorrow. growing problem will be lines at stations stretching for more than a mile. in the city of yonkers officials are limits customers to no more than ten gallons. in south manhattan people went through...
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fema is here. fema is here, federal agents set up in a command center. this is ocean breeze, sort of a forgotten community in between. south beach and midland beach the waters receded, debris cleared. i want to give you a tour. this was a home of ten, eight children, mom and dad called this home. this was the living room. you can see the signs of family. a doll, winnie the pooh, walk you down the hall where this used to be a closet, there was a bathroom here. now covered in sea water and mud and muck and the stench here is incredible. jackie, want to talk to you real quick. your nieces and nephews, 9 through 21 live here. folks here need help. are you getting the help? >> nobody is here. nobody. they just showed up after you showed up. that's it. it's terrible. look. nothing. >> this used to be the backyard. there used to be a patio there. now it's someone else's trampoline, construction equipment, tires, everything that washed up from the water here. several houses in ocean breeze have been condemned. others that i've walked through, the floor, is start
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are you going to keep fema? i guess judging from that answer there's going to be at least a few people in the front office at fema that might make sure some money gets to the states. how do you read it? >> i also think, though, it's not just a question of -- think of how carefully parched that whole statement is. remember that under president obama, like under president bill clinton, part of what has made fema so effective is the ability to have the resources in the bank, to have the resources, to get those resources ahead of the storm. because part of the problem is once the storm hits and you're trying to move resources in then you're behind the 8 ball. part of ryan budget, frankly, if we believe that's the approach romney would take says, no, no, you have to come back to us after a storm hits and get the resources you need. that's inefficient and we know that's inefficient. >> of course, we'll get the conversation of the off sets. >> of course. >> that means we have to take -- >> middle class americans. as yo
are you going to keep fema? i guess judging from that answer there's going to be at least a few people in the front office at fema that might make sure some money gets to the states. how do you read it? >> i also think, though, it's not just a question of -- think of how carefully parched that whole statement is. remember that under president obama, like under president bill clinton, part of what has made fema so effective is the ability to have the resources in the bank, to have the...
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you know, we're starting to do the assessments for fema now in the various towns. i mean obviously they're concerned about health and safety first but starting to put together the assessments and getting their engineers and their officials to start, you know, taking photographs and that type of thing so that they can submit damage assessments to fema. but i mean i have to say, everything i've seen so far, both at the federal, state, local level has been very good in terms of emergency management. >> well, thank you so much, congressman frank pallone from new jersey for taking time to talk to us. our best to you and your constituents and everyone in new jersey. >> you too. thank you and keep safe. >> hurricane sandy has blown up all talk of campaign plans for this final week before the elections creating challenges for both sides. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and mark halperin, senior political analyst for "time" and msnbc. first of all, the president has been on a conference call with govern
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fema was this very large federal agency. i don't think it's appropriate for governor romney and i think the campaign is making the riot call to talk about any criticism of fema right now because we're all in this together. he's trying to do everything he can to help. he's kind of got a very tough line to kind of cross and straddle in the fact that he can't come out and criticize, he can't attack the president like he was doing the week before this because you don't want to have the picture of governor romney in florida being the attack dog on the president and then you've got a picture of chris christie and barack obama taking care of the folks in new jersey. so i think the romney campaign is setting the right tone, which is having that relief effort yesterday. i think you'll see that the next day or two until the president reengages back on the campaign trail. >> joanne, as we talk about what's taking place, we've got new poll numbers that have come in to show three critical battle grounds, florida, ohio, virginia. as we lo
fema was this very large federal agency. i don't think it's appropriate for governor romney and i think the campaign is making the riot call to talk about any criticism of fema right now because we're all in this together. he's trying to do everything he can to help. he's kind of got a very tough line to kind of cross and straddle in the fact that he can't come out and criticize, he can't attack the president like he was doing the week before this because you don't want to have the picture of...
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michael brown, the head of fema in 2005, his name is brownie, right? his background is being in the arabian horses networking on something. but president obama's fema director has a very long track record in disaster management and disaster preparedness and has been very much tested during the past four years, has responded very well over and over again. but the other thing that we haven't talked much about is how many private/public partnerships the president has put in place and the willingness to work across partisan lines, which we saw with chris christie and the president. i think in many ways it's been a model of how the federal government is dealing with the disaster. >> now we're getting these stories out of staten island, also in lower manhattan have been affected by this. but there is a perception, certainly from those people that don't feel like they're getting the help that they need quickly enough. >> oh, of course. and look, your point about it being working class, it was stunning to hear governor romney there talking about drilling and t
michael brown, the head of fema in 2005, his name is brownie, right? his background is being in the arabian horses networking on something. but president obama's fema director has a very long track record in disaster management and disaster preparedness and has been very much tested during the past four years, has responded very well over and over again. but the other thing that we haven't talked much about is how many private/public partnerships the president has put in place and the...
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the head of fema saying the time for preparing and talking is about over. for millions in the new york city area who may have been considering public transportation, the time appears to be over. the massive transit system started the long process of shutting down. they started at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. they hope to have it down and shuttered by 3:00 a.m. in delaware, the coastal areas are under a mandatory evacuation. it goes into effect at 8:00 eastern. we have been reporting from delaware. tom, we can see things have changed dramatically since the last time we spoke. >> absolutely. we are getting hit with stiff winds. look at the angry atlantic ocean. it is coming up and overtaking the beach. this is a preview of what we are going to see over the next 24 to 36 hours. as you mentioned at the top. this area is under a mandatory evacuation. roughly 50,000 people in the delaware area. this is for their safety. over the next 24 to 36 hours, a lot of rain. they are anticipating four to six inches of rain. because of the high tide, combined with the storm surge
the head of fema saying the time for preparing and talking is about over. for millions in the new york city area who may have been considering public transportation, the time appears to be over. the massive transit system started the long process of shutting down. they started at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. they hope to have it down and shuttered by 3:00 a.m. in delaware, the coastal areas are under a mandatory evacuation. it goes into effect at 8:00 eastern. we have been reporting from delaware....
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>> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> thank you. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> governor romney -- >> governor romney, do you think it should be sent back to the states? >> why won't you answer any questions about it? >> i don't know if it was 14, we actually counted up as you saw there it was 11 times. at least in that one instance that mr. romney was asked. here's another instance of it. how would getting rid of federal disaster response help this country in a situation like we're in right now? how seriously has mr. romney thought this through? did he mean that debate response? is that what we can expect from him as president? and can we expect an answer before we are expected to vote? >>> hey, everyone out there wanting to help, we have something for you. in this case you includes former massachusetts governor mitt romney. if you think running a restaurant is hard, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply
>> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> thank you. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> governor romney -- >> governor romney, do you think it should be sent back to the states? >> why won't you answer any questions about it? >> i don't know if it was 14, we actually counted up as you saw there it was 11 times. at least in that one instance that mr. romney was asked. here's...
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>> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> thank you. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> governor romney -- >> governor romney, do you think it should be sent back to the states? >> why won't you answer any questions about it? >> i don't know if it was 14, we actually counted up as you saw there t was 11 times. at least in that one instance that mr. romney was asked. here's another instance of it. how would getting rid of federal disaster response help this country in a situation like we're in right now? how seriously has mr. romney thought this through? did he mean that debate response? is that what we can expect from him as president? and can we expect an answer before we are expected to vote? so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy.
>> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> thank you. >> governor, are you going to eliminate fema? >> governor romney -- >> governor romney, do you think it should be sent back to the states? >> why won't you answer any questions about it? >> i don't know if it was 14, we actually counted up as you saw there t was 11 times. at least in that one instance that mr. romney was asked. here's another...